#6139 Dikirim: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:06 am ⇧

Sama2 bro tambangmas.
Tp tolong penjelasan saya di atas jangan dianggap pasti ya, mungkin jg ngambil H-L-nya swing jg benar. Yg satu benar bukan berarti yg lain salah, mungkin cara berfikir yg berbeda malah lebih profitable? toh katanya 90% trader malah dalam kondisi loss. Silahkan di-backtest dan forward test sesuai dgn metode yg anda pakai, mana yg lebih profit berarti lebih cocok untuk anda dan pair favorit anda
Thx

#6287 Dikirim: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:20 pm ⇧

salam kenal semuanya. sy masih br didunia trading ini. mohon bimbingannya

mau nanya dong.... Untuk entri ponint baiknya disupport atau resistance dan TF-nya berapa?

makasih atas jawabannya

#6296 Dikirim: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:25 pm ⇧

Support itu dimana harga jenuh sehingga Harga sulit utk menembus ke bawah sehingga terjadi pantulan, sedang
Resistance itu dimana harga jenuh sehingga Harga sulit utk menembus ke keatas sehingga terjadi pantulan
dimisalkan harga bisa menembus baik Support atau Resistance ada kecenderungan Harga akan menembus Resistance dan Support berikutnya. Utk perhitungannya pun beda lagi dengan Support dan Resistance Level 1.
Untuk Entry Point ya tergantung analisa anda! Utk para Swing Trader biasanya open ketika harga diarea Support/Resistance utk mengambil titik Baliknya.
Semoga tidak salah penjelasanya, klo salah mohon dibeltulkan, maklum Newbie

#13408 Dikirim: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:08 am ⇧

tanya masalah scaping

salam kenal semua,
saya orang baru di forex (newbiee alias masih cupu) dan saya juga baru bergabung di forum ini, dan setelah saya lihat ternyata forum ini sangat membantu terutama bagi pemula seperti saya untuk mengetahui lebih banyak lagi tentang forex, saya mau tanya mengenai masalah scalping
1. yang dimaksud dengan scalping itu apa sih?
2. bagaimana cara scalping?
3. di beberapa situs trading kalo kita melakukan scalping maka account kita akan di suspend kenapa bisa begitu?

mohon petunjuknya, dan sebelumnya saya ucapin terimakasih

#13413 Dikirim: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:38 am ⇧

Re: tanya masalah scaping

Sebenarnya ini Rahasia dapur para broker yang melarang teknik scalping, karena akan menggangu neraca keuangan mereka, saat seorang melakukan transaksi/trading broker harus mencatat transaksi tsb, namun belum tercatat transaksi sdh selesai apalagi kalo profit "Besar" pasti bikin pusing broker tsb, karena ada broker yang menanggung transaksi tsb ada pula broker yg melempar ke pasar uang, jadi sederhananya belum sempat melakukan apa-apa transaksi sdh selesai
Makanya banyak broker yg tidak mengijinkan Scalping

skyliner wrote:

mohon petunjuknya, dan sebelumnya saya ucapin terimakasih

#13427 Dikirim: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:00 pm ⇧

thanks mr.abee

terimakasih atas penjelasannya mr.abee, ini sangat membantu buat saya, karena saya bru belajar forex dari nol, jadi saya harus tau hal2 dasar terlebih dahulu, saya harap mr. abee, dan para master2 forex di forum ini, tidak bosan membimbing para amatiran seperti saya, yang mungkin memberikan pertanyaan2 yang sifatnya sepele bagi para master2 forex, tapi bagi para amatiran mungkin pertanyaan itu adalah sesuatu yang penting,,
thank you!!!!!

#13434 Dikirim: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:22 am ⇧

tanya lagi masalah berita ekonomi

maaf, saya mo tanya lagi, kali ini masalah berita2 ekonomi yang mempengaruhi pasar, saya masih kurang mengerti tentang efek dari berita ekonomi contohnya begini,
"Measures the relationship between compensation per hour and productivity, or output per hour minus inflation. Higher hourly compensation increases unit labor costs; labor productivity improvements offset compensation increases and lower unit labor costs. A rising trend has a positive effect on the nation's currency. When businesses pay more for labor, they are likely to pass the higher costs to the consumer, so traders view wage inflation as a leading indicator of consumer inflation." (saya dapat dari situs yg juga membahas forex), katanya berita ini memberikan dampak positif terhadap USD, "presepsi saya nilai tukar USD akan naik" apakh benar begitu?

hal2 apa saja yg perlu di perhatikan dari berita ekonomi?
kenapa suatu berita ekonomi itu bisa dikatakan akan memberikan dampak positif terhadap nilai tukar suatu mata uang dan juga sebaliknya?
apakah ada sistem pengkatagorian berita, maksudnya klo berita sperti ini maka dampaknya positif, klo berita seperti itu dampaknya negatif?

mohon petunjuk dan penjelasannya sebelumnya saya ucapakan terimakasih

#13438 Dikirim: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:02 am ⇧

Ini ada artikel ttg hal yg ditanyakan, semoga membantu

What Are the Most Market Moving Economic Indicators for the U.S. Dollar?
Written by Kathy Lien, Chief Strategist and John Kicklighter, Junior Currency Analyst

Non-farm payrolls use to be the most market moving economic indicator for the US dollar, but this is no longer true. Back in April of 2005, we published a report using 2004 data that ranked non-farm payrolls as the single piece of economic data that caused the biggest average daily movement for the US dollar during that year. We have now updated the analysis by looking at the impact of economic data on currency prices between June 2005 and June 2006.

The latest report indicates that the ISM or Institute of Supply Management’s index of manufacturing sentiment actually surpassed the non-farm payrolls as the market moving indicator for the US dollar over the past 12 months. The changes that we have seen in the rankings are primarily due to the shifts in the economic cycle, changes to major market themes and the Federal Reserve’s greater emphasis on inflation. Regardless of whether you are a fundamental or a technical trader, knowing which economic data can cause the biggest shifts in the markets is extremely important. Depending upon your specific trading strategy, it will help you to decide when to be in the markets and when to stay out.

Shifting Importance of Fundamental Data over Time

With the US dollar representing the other side of 90 percent of all currency transactions, US economic data is hands down the most important releases to watch. In our study, we attempt to further narrow this down to the select few that can cause the biggest movements by looking at various time frames to gage both the knee-jerk and slightly more settled reaction. Starting with the knee-jerk reaction in the first 20 minutes of trading, unemployment and the Federal Reserve’s interest rate decision still win out. However, going down the rankings, we see that the trade balance, inflation and retail sales have become much more important while the report on foreign purchases of US Treasuries has slipped from the third most market moving to the sixth. The Federal Reserve’s persistent interest rate hikes along with the rapid increases in oil and gold prices has pushed concerns about funding for the US’ current account and trade balances to the back burner. Between June 2005 and June 2006 alone, oil prices have increased to a high of 50 percent while the price of gold was up 73 percent at its highest point during the 12 months. Therefore it is no wonder that inflation has shot up in significance. As overnight lending rates reach higher and higher, market participants are more prone to use price growth (the Fed’s primary issue when determining monetary policy) to analyze how long the steady diet of 25 basis points can last.



For this updated version of the Most Market Moving Indicators, we decided to include the 60-minute range. This time frame enjoys the split advantage of still reflecting the market’s initial response, but also covers more of the developing trend. Unsurprisingly, many of the indicators from the 20-minute list make this list as well, proving that their knee-jerk reaction is often a catalyst for a longer move rather than just a simple readjustment. The only major change that we see is the flipped position of the trade balance and FOMC rate decision.



Where ISM Wins Out

Now we move onto the full, daily range which measures an indicator’s ability to truly spark shifts in market sentiment or otherwise key off the beginning of new trends. Not surprisingly, many of the same indicators that have held the upper echelons of the Top Market Movers’ list in 2004, remain there today. Non-farm payrolls and the trade balance are two indicators that have survived the upset. However, there are a few surprises for the most current data, the most remarkable of which was the rise of ISM manufacturing to the top spot. This development can be explained in a few ways. The ISM tends be released on the first business day of each month, which allows it to be interpreted as a leading indicator for non-farm payrolls. The ISM report contains two key subcomponents that shed more light on how the data for the rest of the month will be released. The headline ISM manufacturing number is accompanied by the components - prices paid and employment. With independent employment and inflation reads continuously ranking in the top nine, the advanced release is basically a spring board for setting up expectations for the official releases due later in the month. The prices paid indicator in particular has garnered a healthy amount of attention. The employment component is used to forecast payrolls which are released a few days later while the prices paid component is used to forecast the consumer and producer price indexes along with the Federal Reserve’s rate decision.



Why Some Releases Do Not Make the List

There are many indicators that do not make the list even though traders think that they should. Industrial Production and the University of Michigan Consumer Confidence surveys are good examples. These indicators are usually released on days with many competing economic releases. Over the past 12 months, at least one indicator was released at the same time as industrial production every single month. As a result, the actual release holds less significance.

Decreasing Market Volatility

One final reason for the changes in rankings is the comparatively smaller daily trading range for the EUR/USD between June 2005 and 2006. In 2004, the average daily range for the EUR/USD was 111 pips. This has dropped to 104 pips over the past 12 months. Though the decline may seem small, it is more prominently reflected on those days when releases are due. When non-farm payrolls were at the head of the list in 2004, the average daily move of the EUR/USD on the back of the release was 193 pips. This compares to the 130 pip daily range for the ISM index, which tops this year’s list. Contracting interest rate differentials around the world has also contracted market volatility.



Conclusion

As the world changes, so has the importance of different economic data on the US dollar. While technical trading generally dominates the market scene, fundamentals are just as important and as we have seen can also yield a significant influence over the behavior of currencies. Some traders will choose to trade news flow while others who adopt range trading strategies are smart enough to know when to avoid them. Our study suggests that not only should those traders watch the non-farm payrolls report closely, but also the ISM report going forward.


Resources:

Macroeconomic Implications of the Beliefs and Behavior of Foreign Exchange Traders:
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/evansm1/New%20Micro/chinn.pdf

#20584 Dikirim: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:57 pm ⇧

ENTRY MARKET DAN MENTAL

Sebelumnya salam kenal, saya mau tanya apa bener kalo Qta mau entry market harus siap mental terlebih dahulu? istilahnya phisikologi harus bener2 siap dan yakin terlebih dahulu disamping penggunaan trading tools sebagai pegangan untuk trading?....
khan sebagai trader awam jujur aja saya suka langsung panik kalo saya uda entry market lalu harga bergerak ke arah yang sebaliknya..
mohon bantuan untuk penjelasannya...
Thank-Q.

#20587 Dikirim: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:20 pm ⇧

Re: ENTRY MARKET DAN MENTAL

Permasalahan utama seseorang pada saat dia coba2 menjadi "trader" umumnya yg terpikirkan hanya "Cari duit gampang" cuma klik kiri/kanan dapet . akhirnya menganggap remeh persoalan ( karena demo profit terus begitu real acct memble).

Jadi pada saat kita entry, justru kita harus bertanya pada diri kita "Kenapa kita entry di level tersebut?" dgn berbagai alasan tentunya kita memberikan jawabannya dan sudah pasti harus berani menerima konsekuensinya Profit/Loss.

Umumnya kalo kita entry tanpa rencana "Trading Without Trading Plan" pastinya jantungan, sehingga panik spt yg anda katakan, jadi bukan masalah harus kuat mental/psikologi.

Kebanyakan orang akan bimbang sesaat setelah entry dia melihat osilasi gerakan harga ( Naik turun ), makanya saat anda entry jgn lagi lihat harganya dan umumnya dialami oleh para pemain baru.

Jadi sebaiknya tingkatan terus kemampuan diri dan susun rencana/strategy utk trading melalui diskusi dgn teman2 trader lainnya saling belajar.

Ingat istilah "Don't Trade for money that you can't afford to loose"

Salam Sukses

#24987 Dikirim: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:19 pm ⇧

Cara lain untuk menentukan support dan resistance dilihat dari posisi yg masih open

support = average price on long position
resistance= average price on short position

kemudian trade break out dengan cara trend trading system .

#37783 Dikirim: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:29 pm ⇧

The Weakness of Technical Analysis and Application of Artificial Intelligence
Although technical analysis was commonly used as far back as the 19th century, economists and fundamentalists have avoided it due to its unreliability. Most believe that such analyses are vague and price forecasting is impossible. Nevertheless, technicians have persistently attempted to find workable parameters while using Candlestick- or Bar Charts to forecast prices. Unfortunately, for the most part their efforts have been in vain.
There has been no new ball game until the later part of the 20th century; Wall Street communities began to hold biannual conventions on the application of Artificial Intelligence in financial trading. During those conferences there were a lot of discussions about utilizing Neural Networks, Genetic Algorithms, Fuzzy Logic or Chaos Theory with modern computers in searching for ultimate solutions but developers have not yet been able to develop a reliable mechanism. To sum up, there has not been any breakthrough-method of price forecasting in the financial industry for several decades.

answer:
JChart.

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#48278 Dikirim: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:47 pm ⇧

Newbia mau nanya ..

gimana caranya bikin garis lurus kaya screncapture master2 yg ada disini ... ?

kok bisa enak ada garis lurus yg menginformasikan ttg titik support + resistance, jadi membantu trader untuk mengetahui nilai nya ..

Thx b4

#48285 Dikirim: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:16 pm ⇧

Trading hanya dgn Support-Resistace & Candlestick.

Mungkin ini sedikit referensi untuk trading hanya dengan Support /Resistance:

Kalo Market lagi Sideways sebaiknya gunakan tehnik BRV ini:
http://www.4shared.com/file/67607040/7dd0abdc/BRV_Trading.html

Kalau lagi Trending pakai yg ini:
http://forex-strategies-revealed.com/advanced/trend-line-trading-strategy

Lebih bagus lagi kalau ditambah/digabung dgn Candlestick Pattern tapi ga usah yg jelimet2 tetapi seperti ebook ttg Candle yg ini :



DOWNLOAD LINK:

http://www.4shared.com/file/68580472/628140d0/Candlestick_Made_Easy.html

jadi nanti tradingnya mirip2 dikit dgn Bung Kenshi22 punya stlye